Sadie: Oh no! No.
Eric: He wasn't that big. Just before he died, he was just getting up...
Sadie: He was just coming into his own.
Eric: He was just coming into his own, when he passed away, he was just coming into his own to be recognized.
Me: But things could have been so much better it seems.
Sadie: Oh, it could have been better, but as we know, life is a struggle, and as I say, we are people that are used to struggling. It don't mean anything to us. [laughs]
Eric: He wasn't bitter.
Sadie: No, and we weren't either!